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Apple II emulation problems on my new IMAC.....
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Don
2010-04-22 04:49:15 UTC
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Hey all,

Thanks to A2-Central for posting that I write for Retrogaming Times
Monthly! :)

In any case, if anyone read my column recently, I'm running on a IMAC
at home these days with Snow Leopard. Of course, I am running into
some problems:

1. I can't get the Virtual Apple site to run on Safari. Any tips on
how to get it running?
2. It was suggested I download Sweet16 for my IIGS emulation. I
downloaded and got it running but ran into two problems:

A. The mouse control is not very good. Playing Wolfenstein 3D,
I had found it difficult to control the main character. Playing Zany
Golf, I could move the IIGS cursor to parts of the screen.

B. When I went full-screen on Sweet 16, I did not know how to
exit the emulator, so I had to turn off my machine.

I would appreciate any thoughts on the above items. I've had a
learning curve on the IMAC and still learning things everyday.

Don
b***@gmail.com
2010-04-22 05:24:08 UTC
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Post by Don
Hey all,
Thanks to A2-Central for posting that I write for Retrogaming Times
Monthly!  :)
In any case, if anyone read my column recently, I'm running on a IMAC
at home these days with Snow Leopard.  Of course, I am running into
1.  I can't get the Virtual Apple site to run on Safari.  Any tips on
how to get it running?
2.  It was suggested I download Sweet16 for my IIGS emulation.  I
     A.  The mouse control is not very good.  Playing Wolfenstein 3D,
I had found it difficult to control the main character.  Playing Zany
Golf, I could move the IIGS cursor to parts of the screen.
     B.  When I went full-screen on Sweet 16, I did not know how to
exit the emulator, so I had to turn off my machine.
I would appreciate any thoughts on the above items.  I've had a
learning curve on the IMAC and still learning things everyday.
Don
To use Virtual Apple with Safari, you have to download the plugin from
the ActiveGS website ( http://activegs.freetoolsassociation.com ) and
then copy it to the /home/library/Internet Plugins/ directory. Then
it should run fine. If not, let us know and we will take a look at
it.

--billm--
ict@ccess
2010-04-22 05:32:33 UTC
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Post by Don
1.  I can't get the Virtual Apple site to run on Safari.  Any tips on
how to get it running?
2.  It was suggested I download Sweet16 for my IIGS emulation.  I
     A.  The mouse control is not very good.  Playing Wolfenstein 3D,
I had found it difficult to control the main character.  Playing Zany
Golf, I could move the IIGS cursor to parts of the screen.
     B.  When I went full-screen on Sweet 16, I did not know how to
exit the emulator, so I had to turn off my machine.
I would appreciate any thoughts on the above items.  I've had a
learning curve on the IMAC and still learning things everyday.
For the mouse, try increasing the mouse speed in the system
preferences and also within Sweet 16 by going to the control panel
with control-open-apple-escape sequence and adjusting the mouse speed
there as well.

When in full screen, option-open-apple-F to toggle out of full screen
or option-open-apple-Q will quit Sweet 16.

If key sequences are not responding, then option-open-apple-Escape
will allow you to force quit Sweet 16.

More of a band-aid and not really a solution but for the virtual apple
website, try Fire Fox. :)

Rob
datajerk
2010-04-22 16:21:29 UTC
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Post by Don
Hey all,
Thanks to A2-Central for posting that I write for Retrogaming Times
Monthly!  :)
In any case, if anyone read my column recently, I'm running on a IMAC
at home these days with Snow Leopard.  Of course, I am running into
1.  I can't get the Virtual Apple site to run on Safari.  Any tips on
how to get it running?
2.  It was suggested I download Sweet16 for my IIGS emulation.  I
     A.  The mouse control is not very good.  Playing Wolfenstein 3D,
I had found it difficult to control the main character.  Playing Zany
Golf, I could move the IIGS cursor to parts of the screen.
     B.  When I went full-screen on Sweet 16, I did not know how to
exit the emulator, so I had to turn off my machine.
I would appreciate any thoughts on the above items.  I've had a
learning curve on the IMAC and still learning things everyday.
Don
If you are interested in running a standalone emulator try "Virtual ]
[, the best Apple II emulator for Mac OS X" (http://www.xs4all.nl/~gp/
VirtualII/). It's worth every penny ($50US). Works with 10.6.
Steve Nickolas
2010-04-22 19:07:27 UTC
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Post by datajerk
If you are interested in running a standalone emulator try "Virtual ]
[, the best Apple II emulator for Mac OS X" (http://www.xs4all.nl/~gp/
VirtualII/). It's worth every penny ($50US). Works with 10.6.
You could buy a *non*-virtual ][ for that.

-uso.
D Finnigan
2010-04-22 19:12:52 UTC
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Post by Steve Nickolas
Post by datajerk
If you are interested in running a standalone emulator try "Virtual ]
[, the best Apple II emulator for Mac OS X" (http://www.xs4all.nl/~gp/
VirtualII/). It's worth every penny ($50US). Works with 10.6.
You could buy a *non*-virtual ][ for that.
I definitely have to agree. I'm having a hard time deciding whether I want
to pay the shareware fee or not. It seems like there are times when I use
Virtual II fairly often, but then there are times where I don't use it for
weeks at a time. And I already have the real hardware and fairly decent
methods of transferring data.

It's a good emulator, but I fear that I don't make enough use of it to
warrant the full $50 fee. And the lesser fee is sort of useless for me, IMO.
If I get into the time limit pause, I just quit and restart the emulator,
which in most cases is faster than waiting 1 minute.
--
Mac GUI Vault - A source for retro Apple II and Macintosh
computing.
http://macgui.com/vault/
datajerk
2010-04-22 22:52:15 UTC
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Post by Steve Nickolas
If you are interested in running a standalone emulator try "Virtual  ]
[, the best Apple II emulator for Mac OS X" (http://www.xs4all.nl/~gp/
VirtualII/).  It's worth every penny ($50US).  Works with 10.6.
You could buy a *non*-virtual ][ for that.
-uso.
True (and I have), but not with the same set of virtual hardware, e.g.
Z80, sound, mouse, clock, printer cards, virtual printer, disks, HDs,
tape, joystick.

There is the added bonus of acceleration when/if you need it, suspend/
resume, consumes less space/power, and I can make QT videos of the
screen.

But for me its portability. As a frequent traveler (3 of 4 weeks/
month) I always have an Apple IIe with me.

My *real* Apple gets used about once or twice a year when I want to
get my old disks copied to Virtual ][ or when I want to validate a
piece of code (sometimes you just have to see it on the real thing to
believe it :-).

That all said, there is more joy to be extracted from the real thing.
And if I had the space to keep it setup full-time I expect that I'd
use it more.

The $50 for me was more about supporting great work that I'd like to
see get greater.
b***@gmail.com
2010-04-22 23:19:58 UTC
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Post by datajerk
Post by Steve Nickolas
If you are interested in running a standalone emulator try "Virtual  ]
[, the best Apple II emulator for Mac OS X" (http://www.xs4all.nl/~gp/
VirtualII/).  It's worth every penny ($50US).  Works with 10.6.
You could buy a *non*-virtual ][ for that.
-uso.
True (and I have), but not with the same set of virtual hardware, e.g.
Z80, sound, mouse, clock, printer cards, virtual printer, disks, HDs,
tape, joystick.
There is the added bonus of acceleration when/if you need it, suspend/
resume, consumes less space/power, and I can make QT videos of the
screen.
But for me its portability.  As a frequent traveler (3 of 4 weeks/
month) I always have an Apple IIe with me.
My *real* Apple gets used about once or twice a year when I want to
get my old disks copied to Virtual ][ or when I want to validate a
piece of code (sometimes you just have to see it on the real thing to
believe it :-).
That all said, there is more joy to be extracted from the real thing.
And if I had the space to keep it setup full-time I expect that I'd
use it more.
The $50 for me was more about supporting great work that I'd like to
see get greater.
The 50$ was well spent money and you should definitely buy Virtual ]
[ if you are serious about the Apple ][. The features available in
the emulator are not available on any other emulator. Also, Virtual ]
[ have been one of the most developed projects outside of Applewin.

JMHO

--billm--
D Finnigan
2010-04-22 23:29:32 UTC
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Post by datajerk
True (and I have), but not with the same set of virtual hardware, e.g.
Z80, sound, mouse, clock, printer cards, virtual printer, disks, HDs,
tape, joystick.
The $50 for me was more about supporting great work that I'd like to
see get greater.
You've got a great point there. It is indeed the most comprehensive emulator
that I know of. And the slot/card management system is genius. I must admit,
I have spent more than one afternoon experimenting with different Apple
setups.
--
Mac GUI Vault - A source for retro Apple II and Macintosh
computing.
http://macgui.com/vault/
magnusfalkirk
2010-04-23 00:59:16 UTC
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Post by D Finnigan
You've got a great point there. It is indeed the most comprehensive emulator
that I know of. And the slot/card management system is genius. I must admit,
I have spent more than one afternoon experimenting with different Apple
setups.
And Gerard is absolutely easy to work with as far as making changes to
the emulator. He was willing to work with me to get Publish It v4
printing in Virtual II. Aside from Sweet 16, which I think is an
awesome GS emulator, Virtual II is the best Apple II emulator I've
found.

Dean
D Finnigan
2010-04-23 01:04:04 UTC
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Post by magnusfalkirk
And Gerard is absolutely easy to work with as far as making changes to
the emulator. He was willing to work with me to get Publish It v4
printing in Virtual II.
Yes. He's quite open to feature requests as well. I remember one a few
months ago which I made. And while he didn't end up implementing it, he at
least considered it.
--
Mac GUI Vault - A source for retro Apple II and Macintosh
computing.
http://macgui.com/vault/
Don
2010-04-23 03:27:50 UTC
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Thanks for all the responses. For my purposes, I ended up downloading
Firefox going to the Virtual Apple Site (for now).

I don't mind downloading emulators but the Virtual Apple Site is easy
to use and I don't have to have a ton of images littered all over my
computer. :)

The Virtual II emulator does look sweet though. If I had more of a
need for a real "emulated" machine, I would consider it.

Don

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