Google Groups Replacements

[Bill Chatfield]

With the end of Google Groups, It'd be nice if there were a
one-stop-shop for Google Groups replacement instructions, separated by
OS and news reader client.

You might argue that the individual news readers should document their
own usage instructions and then I might rudely laugh at you. But, I
probably wouldn't because I'm not usually that rude. For example, the
instructions for slrn are absolutely terrible. I can't even get
Evolution on Linux to work as there are no instructions for reading
news even though it's supposed to be able to do it. And Thunderbird on
Linux doesn't work correctly, or I can't get it to work correctly.

So, the instructions should include which programs to use on which
platforms because how do you know that unless you waste a bunch of time
trying them all. Only one person should have to waste all that time.

I'm really only considering free solutions because Google Groups was
free. So we could assume Eternal September and just embed their server
addresses into the news reader setup instructions.

o Windows
- Microsoft
- Thunderbird
- Claws Mail
- ReactOS
- ???
o Mac
- Current Supported Version
- ???
- MacOS 10.4
- ???
- MacOS 9
- ???
o Linux
- Fedora
- Claws Mail
- Ubuntu
- ???
- Raspberry PI
- ???
o Apple II
- Apple IIgs
- ???
- Apple IIe/c/Plus
- ???
o Atari
o Amiga
o Commodedoor
o OpenIndiana (Solaris)
o MS-DOS
o GhostBSD (FreeBSD)

We could use a collaborative documentation system (that has the
ability to include screenshots) so that each person could document his
own news reader of preference.

We could advertise our documentation in the Facebook groups to lure
people away.

[MummyChunk]

Post by Bill Chatfield
With the end of Google Groups, It'd be nice if there were
one-stop-shop for Google Groups replacement instructions, separate

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Post by Bill Chatfield
OS and news reader client
You might argue that the individual news readers should documen

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Post by Bill Chatfield
own usage instructions and then I might rudely laugh at you. But,
probably wouldn't because I'm not usually that rude. For example

th

Post by Bill Chatfield
instructions for slrn are absolutely terrible. I can't even ge
Evolution on Linux to work as there are no instructions for readin
news even though it's supposed to be able to do it. And Thunderbir

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Post by Bill Chatfield
Linux doesn't work correctly, or I can't get it to work correctly
So, the instructions should include which programs to use on whic
platforms because how do you know that unless you waste a bunch o

tim

Post by Bill Chatfield
trying them all. Only one person should have to waste all tha

time

Post by Bill Chatfield
I'm really only considering free solutions because Google Group

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Post by Bill Chatfield
free. So we could assume Eternal September and just embed thei

serve

Post by Bill Chatfield
addresses into the news reader setup instructions
o Window
- Microsof
- Thunderbir
- Claws Mai
- ReactO
- ??
o Ma
- Current Supported Versio
- ??
- MacOS 10.
- ??
- MacOS
- ??
o Linu
- Fedor
- Claws Mai
- Ubunt
- ??
- Raspberry P
- ??
o Apple I
- Apple IIg
- ??
- Apple IIe/c/Plu
- ??
o Atar
o Amig
o Commodedoo
o OpenIndiana (Solaris
o MS-DO
o GhostBSD (FreeBSD
We could use a collaborative documentation system (that has th
ability to include screenshots) so that each person could documen

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Post by Bill Chatfield
own news reader of preference
We could advertise our documentation in the Facebook groups to lur
people away

Plenty of web front ends like google groups
Maybe make a consolidated list in the group FAQ


This is a response to the post seen at
http://www.jlaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=657610855#65761085

[D Finnigan]

Post by Bill Chatfield
o Apple II
- Apple IIgs
- ???
- Apple IIe/c/Plus
- ???

I have substitutes for the question marks:

Ewen Wannop's SNAP for the Apple IIgs, and
Bobbi Manners's emai//er 2.0.0 for Apple IIe (also runs on IIgs)

There might have been an even older newsreader than ran under GNO/ME, but I
may be mistaken. Can a GNO person confirm?

[D Finnigan]

Post by D Finnigan
There might have been an even older newsreader than ran under GNO/ME, but I
may be mistaken. Can a GNO person confirm?

Today, I am that GNO person, and I found it. :-)
It's called MuGS, released 1994, "A passive NNTP newsreader for use with
ProLine, GNO or other."

https://macgui.com/downloads/?file_id=11302

[Kelvin Sherlock]

That reminds me... about 25 years ago I fortuitously found a unix
utility named uqwk which would generate a qwk file of usenet posts.
qwk was some sort of offline-mail system used by some BBSes and there
were a couple Apple II qwk readers, 2qwk! perhaps being the best known.

Post by D Finnigan

Post by D Finnigan
There might have been an even older newsreader than ran under GNO/ME, but I
may be mistaken. Can a GNO person confirm?

Today, I am that GNO person, and I found it. :-)
It's called MuGS, released 1994, "A passive NNTP newsreader for use with
ProLine, GNO or other."
https://macgui.com/downloads/?file_id=11302
--
]DF$
https://macgui.com/newa2guide/

-------
ProLine: ***@pro-kegs

[Ralf Kiefer]

Post by Bill Chatfield
- MacOS 9
- ???

MacOS X
MacOS 7.6 ... 8.6

- MacSOUP (Shareware)


Regards
Ralf

[Colin Leroy-Mira]

Hi,

Post by Ralf Kiefer
MacOS X
MacOS 7.6 ... 8.6
- MacSOUP (Shareware)

MacSOUP's thread view was *awesome*, I used it for a very years
before switching to Linux, and remember it fondly.

[Jesse Rehmer]

On Dec 20, 2023 at 10:51:40 AM CST, "Bill Chatfield"

Post by Bill Chatfield
I'm really only considering free solutions because Google Groups was
free. So we could assume Eternal September and just embed their server
addresses into the news reader setup instructions.

Users in csa2 may be interested in connecting my Usenet server. I have
articles going back to the mid 90s for this group (and many others) and am
adding to the archive.

It is available via NNTP without authentication at news.blueworldhosting.com.
Users who want to post can contact me via e-mail for an account. Some
additional information about the service is published at
https://usenet.blueworldhosting.com.

I'm debating adding a web frontend for reading, like RockSolid Light
(https://gitlab.com/rslight-public/rocksolid-light), but I'm concentrated on
putting the archive together on a real Usenet spool first.

[Colin Leroy-Mira]

Hi,

X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 4.1.1 (GTK 3.24.38; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu)

I spot a fellow with a very good taste in email clients ;)

o Linux
- Fedora
- Claws Mail
- Ubuntu
- ???
- Raspberry PI
- ???

Well, Claws-Mail is available and packaged on about every Linux distro,
even if sometimes in the "universe", "extras", or whatever name it has,
repo.

[Steve Nickolas]

Post by Colin Leroy-Mira
Hi,

X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 4.1.1 (GTK 3.24.38; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu)

I spot a fellow with a very good taste in email clients ;)

Can't say I've heard of it - I use Alpine ;)

-uso.