FleaBay

[Anthony Adverse]

I've grown to dislike ebay, seems to be full of we'll call them people, trying to make a fast buck. But the mind absolutely boggles when you see something like this.

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Applied-Engineering-Z-80-Plus-Card-CP-M-Vintage-Apple-II-Tested-Working/223189819487?_trkparms=aid%3D777001%26algo%3DDISCO.FEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160801204525%26meid%3Db09164a2393747d7bb8e7856b6bf333d%26pid%3D100651%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26%26itm%3D223189819487&_trksid=p2481888.c100651.m4497&_trkparms=pageci%3Ada5898b4-d96a-11e8-b48a-74dbd1801327%7Cparentrq%3Ab26692fd1660ac3cbd351d50ffff17ef%7Ciid%3A2

Why? I think it'd want to be emerald encrusted platinum for that money.

A

[groink_hi]

I don't see the BFD about these sales. It is capitalism at its finest! The seller has the right to sell at whatever price, and he has the right to keep trying to selling it until Jimmy Hoffa is found. Even if someone does end up buying it at that price, the buyer has that right too.

I somehow have to wonder what the motivation is for some people to complain about eBay. Some people complain a seller is selling something too low, because that too will lower the re-sale value of his. And if you can believe it, some people are worried cloning of certain products will drop the value of their genuine peripherals. Steve of the famous Mac Floppy Emu received a number of complaints about his "Yellowstone" project that basically clones the Liron card. I couldn't believe it when he wrote about it - some people prefer certain peripherals to stay scarce and rare for the sake of the value of their collection.

[Anthony Adverse]

Post by groink_hi
I don't see the BFD about these sales. It is capitalism at its finest! The seller has the right to sell at whatever price, and he has the right to keep trying to selling it until Jimmy Hoffa is found. Even if someone does end up buying it at that price, the buyer has that right too.
I somehow have to wonder what the motivation is for some people to complain about eBay. Some people complain a seller is selling something too low, because that too will lower the re-sale value of his. And if you can believe it, some people are worried cloning of certain products will drop the value of their genuine peripherals. Steve of the famous Mac Floppy Emu received a number of complaints about his "Yellowstone" project that basically clones the Liron card. I couldn't believe it when he wrote about it - some people prefer certain peripherals to stay scarce and rare for the sake of the value of their collection.

That price somehow just seems... criminal. Although I guess two things, one your right, they can sell it for whatever they like, the other is that like the GS from the other day, perhaps they don't really want to sell it, but then why post it in the first place. Also someone with far deeper pockets than mine might be out there somewhere just waiting to splash their cash.

A

[f***@hotmail.com]

He's had some nice listings lately and seems to be a good seller. Not sure I understand complaints about prices for things that aren't a "necessity" though (tested working vintage electronics for nostalgia's sake). We all have things we want and can't have.

I'll agree that some sellers have pie-in-the-sky prices. Don't like it, don't buy it. Close the tab on your browser, walk outside. Problem solved. Sniffing out deals takes time and dedication and your response just makes you sound bitter. My $0.02.

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[Gordon Henderson]

Post by Anthony Adverse
I've grown to dislike ebay, seems to be full of we'll call them people, trying to make a fast buck. But the mind absolutely boggles when
you see something like this.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Applied-Engineering-Z-80-Plus-Card-CP-M-Vintage-Apple-II-Tested-Working/223189819487?_trkparms=aid%3D777001%26algo%3DDISCO.FEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160801204525%26meid%3Db09164a2393747d7bb8e7856b6bf333d%26pid%3D100651%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26%26itm%3D223189819487&_trksid=p2481888.c100651.m4497&_trkparms=pageci%3Ada5898b4-d96a-11e8-b48a-74dbd1801327%7Cparentrq%3Ab26692fd1660ac3cbd351d50ffff17ef%7Ciid%3A2
Why? I think it'd want to be emerald encrusted platinum for that money.

People sell stuff for what the think people will pay. Most ebay sellers
are not enthusiasts, just capitalists.

And it's not as if it's a million miles away from the mark either - this

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Z80/273508170353

is £200 - the one above is £234 in my British pounds.

Incidentally think about trimming the ebay urls if you can - all you need
for ebay is the item number . 223189819487 enter that in the search box
and up it will come. ebay also ignores the stuff after /itm/ and before
the number, so https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/scummyz80/273508170353 works
just as well - the rest of the url just lets ebay know that you shared
the link and allows ebay to build up connections of who knows who -
which they can then sell on, but that's not different from most big
ecommerce sites these days, sadly.

-Gordon

[Anthony Adverse]

Post by Gordon Henderson

Post by Anthony Adverse
I've grown to dislike ebay, seems to be full of we'll call them people, trying to make a fast buck. But the mind absolutely boggles when
you see something like this.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Applied-Engineering-Z-80-Plus-Card-CP-M-Vintage-Apple-II-Tested-Working/223189819487?_trkparms=aid%3D777001%26algo%3DDISCO.FEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160801204525%26meid%3Db09164a2393747d7bb8e7856b6bf333d%26pid%3D100651%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26%26itm%3D223189819487&_trksid=p2481888.c100651.m4497&_trkparms=pageci%3Ada5898b4-d96a-11e8-b48a-74dbd1801327%7Cparentrq%3Ab26692fd1660ac3cbd351d50ffff17ef%7Ciid%3A2
Why? I think it'd want to be emerald encrusted platinum for that money.

People sell stuff for what the think people will pay. Most ebay sellers
are not enthusiasts, just capitalists.
And it's not as if it's a million miles away from the mark either - this
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Z80/273508170353
is £200 - the one above is £234 in my British pounds.
Incidentally think about trimming the ebay urls if you can - all you need
for ebay is the item number . 223189819487 enter that in the search box
and up it will come. ebay also ignores the stuff after /itm/ and before
the number, so https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/scummyz80/273508170353 works
just as well - the rest of the url just lets ebay know that you shared
the link and allows ebay to build up connections of who knows who -
which they can then sell on, but that's not different from most big
ecommerce sites these days, sadly.
-Gordon

Ahh I wasn't aware of the trim factor. I'll pay more attention going forward.

[Steven Hirsch]

Post by Anthony Adverse
I've grown to dislike ebay, seems to be full of we'll call them people,
trying to make a fast buck. But the mind absolutely boggles when you see
something like this.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Applied-Engineering-Z-80-Plus-Card-CP-M-Vintage-Apple-II-Tested-Working/223189819487?_trkparms=aid%3D777001%26algo%3DDISCO.FEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160801204525%26meid%3Db09164a2393747d7bb8e7856b6bf333d%26pid%3D100651%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26%26itm%3D223189819487&_trksid=p2481888.c100651.m4497&_trkparms=pageci%3Ada5898b4-d96a-11e8-b48a-74dbd1801327%7Cparentrq%3Ab26692fd1660ac3cbd351d50ffff17ef%7Ciid%3A2
Why? I think it'd want to be emerald encrusted platinum for that money.

Who knew my AE Z80+ card stock would be worth $1500? My complete A2 board and
machine collection appears to be a major component in my retirement nest-egg.

[James Davis]

Myself, I would ask the original cost to me. Then, whoever contacted me with the best counter-offer, would get it after I had the money (more or less) in hand.

[cb meeks]

Post by Anthony Adverse
I've grown to dislike ebay, seems to be full of we'll call them people, trying to make a fast buck. But the mind absolutely boggles when you see something like this.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Applied-Engineering-Z-80-Plus-Card-CP-M-Vintage-Apple-II-Tested-Working/223189819487?_trkparms=aid%3D777001%26algo%3DDISCO.FEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160801204525%26meid%3Db09164a2393747d7bb8e7856b6bf333d%26pid%3D100651%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26%26itm%3D223189819487&_trksid=p2481888.c100651.m4497&_trkparms=pageci%3Ada5898b4-d96a-11e8-b48a-74dbd1801327%7Cparentrq%3Ab26692fd1660ac3cbd351d50ffff17ef%7Ciid%3A2
Why? I think it'd want to be emerald encrusted platinum for that money.
A

What I hate more than eBay scalpers are the guys taking vintage computers and selling them in parts. Ripping out SID chips, RAM, etc. Hoping to get more based on the "sum of its parts".

[[e-mail]]

I hate it too, but there is a need for a certain amount of parts cannibalization to take place in order to increase the larger pool of working / restored machines. Instead of everyone owning two of everything, with one just to be mined for parts for the other, it's probably more efficient for the occasional machine to be parted out to be able to satisfy the outstanding needs of a dozen hobbyists at once.

It better not catch on though. I think if supply exceeds demand then the parter-outers will dial back their activity due to the number of unsold parts in their inventories.